Echoing

Fri 5 Jan 01 6:38a
By: Ward Dossche
To: Fidonews Robot
Re: Re: FidoNews 18:01 [00/10] Editorial

Dear Mr. Robot Sah,

Freedom of the press is a beautifull thing. Unfortunately that same freedom is not devoid of abuse.
Example ... the "Chat with Editor"-contribution of:

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 01 1 Jan 2001

By: Bart Verhaeghe
To: All
Re: Ward Dossche The abuse Story.

Dear International Fidonet Sysop's. I am here to inform you of the abuse of Ward Dossche. Just some time ago I was a downlink of Ward. But the cable company was ready in Belgium so I took the cable and, I asked Johan Zwiekhorst (RC29) if I could poll his system instead by IP, That was fine for Johan and I informed Ward about my decision

Ward's reply to Fidonews Robot:
What Bart fails to mention is that it was yours truly who pointed him to Johan Zwiekhorst whom, in my opinion, at that time was the onlyone technically available to provide the technical service requested. Both Johan and I also discussed Bart's imminent transition between feeds (Johan undoubtedly can confirm this).

What Bart equally fails to mention is that I assisted Johan Zwiekhorst to the best of my abilities in order to get him a reliable link in zone-1 in order to service Bart's request. (both Johan and John Souvestre will also confirm this when prompted).

BV> Like changing my password so I could not areafix to his system to
BV> disconnect my echomail.

WD> It is indeed a know fact you need to send your areafix-requests
WD> here to "areafix" and not "areamanager". And I don't think even
WD> Bart will dissagree if
WD> I state I performed a manual-disconnect for hundreds of
WD> conferences. Most likely he will concur that at my suggestion he
WD> was added to Johan Zwiekhorst's hub-entry because technically it
WD> made more sense than remaining listed under my hub.

BV> He says that there is a historical rule that say's
BV> that the ic/zc2 has to take mail from the r28-bone.

WD> Way in time the R29-sysops agreed on a single import-system,
WD> largely to settle a rather ferocious mail-war. This has never been
WD> IC/ZC2-related.

BV> His whole mailer system is "historic"...no %rescan; ...

What do you expect if conferences are "passthru"?

> ... no Msgid ...

WD> There is no rule about that.

BV> and he still strips seenbye's ...

WD> Which is a requirement when you are gating echomail to other
WD> zones (in this case John Souvestre).

BV> Third Chapter of this story He made another people think I am a
BV> bad person by saying in a R29 area (west-vlaams.reg) with another
BV> college (Alfred Vossen) that he is not welcome ....

WD> This calls for some serious quoting ...

**** QUOTE ****

Date: 08 Oct 00 19:23:19
From: Ward Dossche
To: Bart Verhaeghe
Subj: Re: dikkoppen

Bart,

>WD> Het verhaal van BACKBONE.B vertelt voldoende en de houding t.o.v.
>WD> Alfred Vossen, die het alleen maar wat plezanter probeerde te
>WD> maken,
>WD> vond ik nu niet echt van het beste dat ik al ooit mocht lezen.

>BV> never mind sluit hem af dan zijn we van hem af he .

>WD> Ik denk er niet aan.

>WD> Alfred is een van de meest positief ingestelde gasten in gans
>WD> R29, je zou blij moeten zijn dat hij voor wat flow en wat
>WD> kwaliteit wil helpen zorgen.

>WD> Ik heb gezegd!

>WD> \x/ard

**** UNQUOTE ****

Translated this goes about as follows:

**** START TRANSLATE ****

>WD> The story in BACKBONE.B says it all and the attitude towards
>WD> Alfred Vossen, who only tried to cheer-up matters a little bit,
>WD> wasn't perceived by me as the best I've been able to read so far.

> BV> That doesn't matter, you just drop his link and then we're rid
> BV> of him.

> WD> I don't even think of it.
> WD> Alfred is one of the most positive oriented guys in the whole
> WD> of R29,
> WD> you should be pleased he wants to enhance the flow and quality.

> WD> I have spoken!

**** END TRANSLATE ****

BV>So my dear fidonet sysop's I hope I've shed some more light on Ward
BV> Dossche's abusive power as ic/zc2.

BV> Groeten, Bart Verhaeghe Fidonet : 2:292/907 Web-Site :

WD> In fact the only thing which has happened is a gross
WD> misrepresentation of documented facts to which hardly any defense
WD> is possible.

WD> Those that don't care, they simply don't care while those that do
WD> will take this and other communications irrelevant of truth and/
WD> or content and make certain it becomes an urban legend.

WD> \x/@rd

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WD> (2:292/854)