F I D O N E W S
Volume 17, Number 43
23 October 2000

Letters to the Editor

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(146) Tue 17 Oct 00 7:24a
Rcvd: Tue 17 Oct 7:24a
By: Dave Hamilton, Aurora Exploratoria (229/622)
To: Warren Bonner Re: Things that matter St:
Pvt Rcvd

Hi, Warren -

Here's something maybe you could include in the snooze...

* Original from Dave Hamilton 1:229/622
* Original to Darrell Salter
* Original about "Things that matter" * Original in area FN_SYSOP

DS> Then we move on to the decision by the Z1C to merge two regions. Again
DS> there is an outcry by RCs and sysops alike.

I have yet to see one single sysop that supports David's intention to remove R14 and merge the nets into one or more other regions. I have seen protests, many of them from Fido folks I respect.

What I want to see now is the reconciliation between policy and principles.

Will sysops in groups or as individuals be willing to sell out their support of the R14 sysops for the price of not having to admit that unaccountable authority is not a good thing?

-!- FleetStreet 1.26 ! Origin: Aurora Exploratoria - Ladysmith, BC,
Canada (1:229/622)

==== End of Forward ====

Best, dave


From: "Victor Kuznetsov" <v_kuznetsov@mail.ru>
To: <editor@fidonews.org>
Subject: fidonews
Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:08 PM

Hello editor!

Please insert to FIDONEWS information about Region 50 Net 5070 WebSite, his address http://www.n5070.z2.fidonet.net.

Net 5070: http://www.n5070.z2.fidonet.net

Thanx!
--
Best Regards, Victor Kuznetsov ICQ UIN: 59610324
(2:5070/222@fidonet) lto:v_kuznetsov@mail.ru


(7435) Sun 15 Oct 00 7:52p
By: Foxy Ferguson
To: Michael Mccabe
Re: Region 14/15 Merger
St:

MM> I did run for RC in the last election...

MM> But R14 has another tradition... The guy who steps forward
MM> to rebuild it and hold the election, well he cannot run
MM> since he is holding the election.

Seems to me that you could, in essence, step aside now and allow Jim Cannell to "rebuild" ya'll's region (being as how he's been "tasked" with that job by our great leader), then run for the RC hat in the election Jim would be required (by ya'll) to hold. Methinks you'd be a shoe-in.


(7433) Mon 16 Oct 00 6:15a
By: Jim Cannell
To: Michael Mccabe
Re: Region 14/15 Merger
St:

14 Oct 00 23:18, Michael McCabe wrote to Jim Cannell:

JC>> I will serve as TEMPORARY RC14 while the nodelist cleanup
JC>> proceeds.

MM> You might step back, politely tell the ZC that you will
MM> let R14 decide for themselves (Notice the ELF reference :)
MM> , refuse (politely) to be the temp RC, and offer to help
MM> whoever in R14 is fixing the problems. That is you make
MM> your info available to US, not R14 report everything to
MM> you.

At this point, I think that we can all agree that the important task is to get R14 connected again. Regardless of whether David erred or not in appointing me to be temporary RC14, it has happened. David will now be accepting updates to Region 14 only from me.

MM> I am being polite here. Offering you a way out. You will
MM> not be perceived as one of the bad guys then.

Thanks for the out. However, I have been appointed to do a job, and will continue to do it to the best of my ability.

MM> Please do not get me wrong, I would welcome any help from
MM> you. I just will not turn out my Region to be screwed. I
MM> cannot help you or the ZC in removing R14.

The best help that I can give you right now is to get R14 reconnected, and get an accurate R14 nodelist segment into the nodelist. After the region is again connected, we can get input from the entire region to determine the course that the region sysops wish to take. No merger is going to happen until everyone in the region has a chance to speak up.

Please send me an updated segment for your net. I'll get it into the nodelist. This applies to all Region 14 NCs.

The R14 issue is the number one topic of discussion among the RCC right now. With your (and other R14 sysops) help, we'll make sure that it gets resolved in the best interests of R14 and the rest of FidoNet.

Jim

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